Minutes of Meeting Date(s): 10 Jan 2015 Start Time: 1030 End Time: 1530 Distribution date: 21 Feb 2015 Title of Meeting: Fourth Competition Committee (CC) Meeting 2014/15 Location: Present: Apols: Bicester Mark Holden (MH) Russell Cheetham(RC) Paul Candler (PCa) Liz Sparrow (ES) Paul Crabb (PCr) Alan Langlands (AL) Brian Spreckley (BS) by Skype Pete Masson (PM) Andy Cockerell (AC) Rich Hood (RH) Graham Garnett (GG) Matt Cook (MC) Chair: Distribution: Mark Holden Meeting Attendees + BGA Exec (once approved) Legend Type EVE OBS DEC AI Event Observation Decision Action Item No Type Due By DESCRIPTION Date Meeting and Comps Committee Admin 1 OBS MH opened meeting and thanked Bicester for hosting. 2 OBS Date of Next Meeting - 21 Feb. Planning Awayday 28 Feb. Aim to hold next meeting at Lasham if it means Graham can attend. 3 AI Approval of Minutes - Minutes of meeting 10 Jan were agreed; Mark to send to Exec to publish. We understand that the item re supporting the 20m Champions in the Europeans was a request from the Chair, not the BGA Exec. 4 OBS Action Log Was reviewed and updated as attached. IGC Update 5 DEC Voting – see attached. 6 OBS FLARM Developments – newsletter this week introduces a privacy setting which will let people opt out; firmware update 31 March will enable the new stuff. IGC has had no official response from FLARM at this point; Brian has chased up and is waiting for an answer regarding the comp safety issue around stealth. Tracking is a separate issue being chased by FAI. Competition Rulebook Resp. MH Minutes of Meeting No Type 7 AI Due By Date 13 Feb DESCRIPTION Rulebook Wording Handicap edits – ok Internationals – see amended version Competition types edits – ok, needs handicap table from PDF Amendments to 7.2.1 & 7.2.2 – add 20m as suggested to title headers Note in foreword re Club class Show the text changes in the body if possible FLARM paper published. Add comp safety development para to foreword And one for the Organisers’ Guide: Instruction to put FAI licence number in right place - scorers not using OnGlide should use a particular field in the Pilot details in SeeYou Competition to store the licence number Resp. AL 8 AI 13 Feb Note on FLARM paper for rulebook; comp safety development para 9 AI 21 Feb Update scripts accordingly 10 AI asap DHTs - wording re standard showery TPs 11 DEC Club Class – we will publish the explanation with the rulebook; consult over the summer at forums and via a survey, rulebook will have a note re the consultation, decision will be taken and wording finalised at first CC of next year so wording published ahead of Nationals entries; 12 DEC Cloud Flying –, - revised version document to be published discussing the sporting fairness of cloud flying and seeking further feedback from competition pilots in 2015 via the competition forums and surveys. 13 Asap Check revised version of cloud flying doc 14 Now! Note for rulebook announcing CC and cloudflying developments Competition Safety / Directors’ Seminars 15 OBS Competition Safety Alan is meeting Hugh next Friday to consider next steps 16 AI 31 Jan Liz to get safety info from comp pilot survey to Alan before next Friday 17 OBS Pete suggested G could be involved as he’d made some very helpful input to the club class forum re safety 18 OBS Directors’ seminars – responses from 8 directors for 5 April; 1 no, 5 non-responders so far; 7 directors plus others yes. Brian notes he has a similar subject at IGC meeting – develop during March. Alan and Brian will be there, Mark if possible, others tbc. 19 AI 21 Feb Send Mark the invitation email that invited Directors to the seminars British Team and budget 20 OBS Automatic Entry - Brian expects that the 20m champion will NOT get an automatic entry to the next competition – was part of the original intention but not written into Annex A. 21 OBS Teams for 2015 Club class: Pete has had to pull out – Ian MacArthur is possibility. G is confirmed. Flapped comps: Russell noted that the aerotow fees had been increased over bid values – with IGC to resolve. 22 OBS Budget - All liked the new structure. Liz noted concern that we need a proper team training approach and so current estimates will be wrong – Mark expects strategy team to come back with a recommendation 23 AI 21 Feb May not be correct figure re juniors team training launch fees MH PCa/AC AL ES ES ES AL PM Minutes of Meeting No Type Due By DESCRIPTION Date 24 AI ASAP Difficulty with Graham not able to attend Saturdays – option to move meeting time / date / skype / teleconference UK Competitions 25 AI 21 Feb Surveys - Feedback to Organising Clubs - Liz will send a follow up email to encourage positive receipt of the info! 26 Learning from the surveys and developing comp types: Liz asked how Mark anticipated taking forward the learning from the survey and we concluded it should be as part of, but perhaps as a subgroup of, the strategy work. There was a short discussion on various issues around this and Alan mentioned the possibility of a height-loss restriction to try to help either start or finish safety. 27 Juniors – all going to plan, 26 entries so far which is ahead of schedule, lot of first-time entries and two-seat applications. 28 ICL – Andy reported that main work will start after strategy meeting. He pointed out that the comp survey showed big demand for mini- comps. Discussion on motivation; regionality, encouraging mixing. How can we support centrally? Run as Ladder/OLC or online league table or suchlike. 29 AI 21 Feb Follow up with chap who does Cross-country soaring – OLC comp Alexander Georgis (?) 30 AI Now!! Get Keith to put something in BGA newsletter asking for ICL contacts 31 AI Now!! Bicester need to submit a GP bid document today even if not complete, don’t need to bid a date. 32 AI ASAP Nationals entries looking better than at this time last year – comp in all classes. Russell will liaise with the BGA office to get the entries onto the website next week. 33 AI 21 Feb Russell agreed to draft the 2016 comp timetable; noted the need to integrate GP and Lasham’s desire for a pre-Europeans – see below. Lasham Europeans 2017 34 OBS British Team funding - Funding for Lasham comp doesn’t require travel element at same rate which may give us some funding options for our team pilots. 35 OBS Competition Planning - To date, the Comps Committee has not been involved in the discussion that has happened although Mark reports that he believes there is an agreement between Lasham and BGA. Liz raised her concern about this. Brian reported that Andy Davies/Pete Harvey are talking to Lasham and noted that officially it is the BGA who have made the bid and are hosting the comp. He noted that IGC will soon appoint the Chief Steward who will be looking to see that they are getting things organised eg scrutineering, weighing, etc. Mark is the CC formal link but is not getting updated. 36 OBS Pre-Europeans – Lasham want to run a pre-Europeans in 2016 and the CC support this in order to maximise the chance of delivering an excellent comp in 2017, although Brian noted that a ‘pre-Europeans’ doesn’t have a formal existence in IGC terms. Balancing the need to get a large entry with the need for other clubs to run National competitions, uur draft intention is to assign the Open and 15m Nationals simultaneously at Lasham alongside an open 18m pre- Europeans non-Nationals. The 18m Nationals would not be at Lasham. Date needs to be nailed down so we can programme 2016 timetable. CC are concerned about cost – Lasham will need to price appropriately to ensure a decent entry list. The Pre-Europeans in Hungary is E115 entry fee with E35 aerotows. 5 Year Plan Resp. MH ES AC AC ? RC RC Minutes of Meeting No Type 37 OBS Due By Date Website 38 OBS Cambridge Airspace 39 OBS Any Other Business 40 DESCRIPTION Meeting 28th Feb at Lasham; agenda is the 5-year draft doc. All CC invited plus other relevant contributors. No detailed update; Rich is working on it. Mark updated us that there are communications between a sub-group from the BGA and Cambridge to improve understanding of each others’ operations. Likely to result in a local agreement with Gransden. Mark and Alan attending meeting 16 Feb; will update us thereafter. Developing the other actions arising from safety stuff and comp surveys – items to put on agenda for next meeting Resp. MH Attachments: IGC meeting voting decisions Cloud Flying Document latest revision